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Service & Therapy Dogs > Service dog questions
Ollivander

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Barked: Sun Jul 22, '12 8:30pm PST 
The teamwork books are pretty good for explaining how to train basic service tasks for people with physical disabilities, you might look into those. But I've found the most helpful way to learn about training a SD is to ask specific questions. So for example you might start a thread asking how to train your dog to take off your socks or something.
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Service & Therapy Dogs > Service Dog 'kit'
Ollivander

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Barked: Sun Jul 22, '12 8:28pm PST 
I carry very minimal stuff. I have a leash-bag which holds flyers, emergency info card, emergency meds, a foldable water bowl (new addition since the gathering), and some poop bags. Ollie's harness and new vest don't have pockets, so I can't keep anything in there.
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Service & Therapy Dogs > Samson got bloat

Ollivander

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Barked: Sun Jul 22, '12 8:24pm PST 
I'm so sorry to hear this, but so glad you got him to the vet in time and he is doing OK!
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Service & Therapy Dogs > Still at training camp!

Ollivander

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Barked: Sun Jul 22, '12 8:22pm PST 
Can't wait to see pictures!
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Service & Therapy Dogs > Service Dog for P.T.S.D

Ollivander

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Barked: Thu Jul 19, '12 4:13pm PST 
If you don't have the money for a therapist, honestly you likely don't have the money to get a trainer, but equipment, etc for your dog to be a service dog. Getting therapy and taking meds are MUCH easier solutions than getting a SD. Getting a SD is a HUGE life changer, with a lot of side effects, it is not for everyone.

I would recommend trying therapy for a while and maybe even meds to see if you're able to be helped. Then if therapy and meds aren't working, bring up the idea of a SD to your therapist and psychiatrist.
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Service & Therapy Dogs > Service dog groups for those who self train
Ollivander

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Barked: Thu Jul 19, '12 4:11pm PST 
I found a trainer by calling around my local area until I found a trainer I liked, then approaching her to ask if she would be able to help me. More helpful than the trainer, though, was my regular meetings with other experienced SD handlers. I learned SO much from these friends, and they from me as well. I would recommend trying to find some local SD people to hang out with and do training outings with. You can do that through dogster, or through other listservs or groups by asking if there is anyone in your area.
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Service & Therapy Dogs > Please Don't Pet

Ollivander

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Barked: Thu Jul 19, '12 4:07pm PST 
I'll repost my how I interact with the general public post after this message. Practicing is great, and is how I managed to get a hold of situations like this. Nowadays if someone trieds to pet without asking I do one of two things: 1. I put my hand out over my dog so that they end up petting my hand instead of putting the dog. I also smile, look into their eyes and say "please don't pet". Or 2. I tell Ollie "good ignore" and keep repeating it. Ollie ignores them and they get the picture that they are supposed to ignore him, too.

Repost from 2/2007 with updates 9/2010

It often happens that members of the general public ask us questions about our disability or our SD. I've found that having some memorized responses handy really helps out. That way you don't have to think each time you are asked a question. From these stock responses you can craft an answer to pretty much any question. You don't have to answer exactly the same question that the person asks you. They are asking a question because they are interested in service dogs and want to know more. If you answer a slightly different question, they often won't realize that you didn't answer their question. For example, to a whole bunch of questions about service dogs you can respond with a list of various things service dogs can do. Just mention what your service dog does in that list, and you're answering their question probably.

The most important thing to remember is people are not asking questions because they are trying to be mean. Usually they don't know any better and are excited about seeing a service dog. I know it doesn't always feel like that-- especially with some of the more intrusive questions. But really people just don't realize what they are doing isn't the nicest way to interact. If you are polite to them, they will be open to learning more about service dogs and the proper etiquette, and therefore nicer to you and other SDs in the future. They will also be more likely to help you in the future if you have an access challenge or a medical emergency.

What kind of dog is that?
I always respond to this question with my dog's breed. About half the time people are asking about the breed, and half the time they are asking if it is a SD. So I start with the more innocuous one first.

Is that a guide dog?
If I am in a public access challenge situation (in other words when I am talking with a gatekeeper) I answer "Yes, he is a service dog". They only want to hear the "yes", and then you are politely correcting their language. If it is a member of the general public I say "No, he is a service dog".

Are you a puppy raiser, or are you training that dog?
If your dog is a SDIT, it is fine to say "Yes". You don't have to explain that you are training or raising the dog for yourself. If you are comfortable saying so, you can say "Yes, I'm training him for me."

If you have a full SD, you can say "No, he's for me" and I find adding "I'm the one with the disability" on the end helps people to get it. If you say say the dog is for you, often they are very confused and will ask "what for?". If you add the "I'm the one with a disability" on the end, the disability word usually gets them to remember they're not supposed to ask people about their disabilities.

What is the dog for/what is your disability?
If you don't want to reveal anything about your disability, you can respond with a list of things service dogs can do like "Service dogs can help out with many things-- they can alert to sounds, alert to siezures, migranes, panic attacks and other mental illness, retrieve dropped items for people with mobility impairments, and so on."

You can also say "I'd rather not discuss my disability" or "He helps with my disability".

If you are comfortable revealing a little more information, if your dog does alert work you can say "My dog warns me before I get sick" or "He is a medical alert dog". If your dog responds to your mental illness, you can say your dog is a medical response dog. If they press for more information, you can say you'd rather not discuss your disability.

Some of us for personal reasons have decided to be more open about our mental illness. I am one of those people, as I find not being ashamed of my MI helps others to not be ashamed about it either. Self-acceptance leads to tolerance and acceptance from others. I've now revealed my disability to many people and almost always I get either a neutral or very positive response. My response is "He alerts to my panic attacks and bipolar mood swings". If you have a perception disorder you might say "She is for hallucination discernment". I've been out with Linden when she says this and very rarely does anyone react negatively.

Do you have seizures/diabetes?
People seem to have heard of these types of SDs fairly frequently, as this is a pretty common question. If you don't want to reveal the nature of your disability, you can say "I have something similar where I get sick with no warning". Or you can just say "No", or even respond with the nature of your disability if you feel comfortable doing so.

You don't look disabled!
The best response to this is "Thank you" with a smile. If you get defensive when people say this, it rarely turns out to be a good encounter, so keeping it short, sweet, and positive is a great way to get the person to hear what they said and think about it. If you feel like adding anything else you can say "Not all disabilities are visible".

How long do you get to keep the dog?
If you have a SDIT and don't want to reveal anything about your disability you can say "It usually takes about 1-2 years to train a service dog."

If you have a full SD, you can say "I get to keep him for life!". Since I now have a retired SD at home, if I am in a chatty mood I'll usually tell the person that my retired SD is at home taking a nap. Sometimes I exaggerate and say she's watching TV or enjoying hogging the couch. People like to hear that the dog stays with you for life.

What school/program are you with?
My stock response is "I am training him (or did the training) myself". The flyer I hand out (more on that later) has my trainer's contact information, so I usually direct them to that information if they seem interested.

If you don't want to reveal that your dog is owner-trained or that you are in the process of owner-training you can say "I hired a wonderful trainer to train her" (yes, you can say this because you yourself are a wonderful trainer!) or "We are working with a wonderful trainer". Or you can say "service dogs can be trained by many different schools, organizations, private trainers and even the disabled handler herself!"

Other helpful hints
Something I think a lot of people forget is that not only can you memorize answers to these types of questions, but you can also memorize the body language that goes with them. If you want to get people to go away faster, turn your head away and use body language to make that clear. If you just stand there looking at the person like you expect a response, you will get drawn into a conversation. That's fine if you want it, but if you don't, it's good to practice using your body language to tell people that the conversation isn't going to be a long one. It's best to role play using these answers and various types of body language with a friend or family member so that this sort of stuff becomes second nature. You can also hang out with other SD teams in your area and watch how they interact with the general public.

The thing that has been the most helpful to me in interacting with the general public has been the creation of a flyer about my service dog. Whenever anyone asks pretty much any question about my dog, I offer them a flyer. The flyer has information on service dog etiquette as well as information about my service dog. I have saved Sabrina's flyer which I made when I was not comfortable revealing my disability to anyone. You can see it here:

http://www.box.net/public/qe956unssp

I also have Ollie's flyer, in which I reveal my diagnosis to anyone who reads the flyer. You can see it here:

http://www.box.net/shared/gtqqmk084x

There are lots of flyers online. PSDS has a FAQ flyer (link below), and many other flyers are available. Many listmembers have created flyers, too.

http://www.psychdog.org/brochures/FAQInfo.pdf

One final point is that sometimes you are stuck somewhere with people around who are really interested in your service dog. This happens to me frequently when in the train station, for example. If people keep asking you questions and you are not in the mood to interact with people, you can do a quick run-through of your tricks. It is a good way to sort-of interact with other people while not doing so directly. It also keeps you focused on your dog which reduces my anxiety, and can show people some of the cool things SDs can do. I often have Ollie pick up his leash and/or a flyer. I have him shake my feet or hands, do fun turns where he swings his bum around while keeping his front end still, have him lift his feet when I life my feet, do leg weaves, etc. Then when my train comes I hop on and tell people "goodbye" (this is very important so they don't then sit next to you!) as I find an empty seat.

I hope that helps, and please don't hesitate to bring up any other questions that you'd like a stock response to.
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Service & Therapy Dogs > How do you deal with people telling you how to train your dog?

Ollivander

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Barked: Thu Jul 19, '12 4:01pm PST 
Say thanks, smile, then go back to the training you are doing. That usually gets the message across clearly.
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Service & Therapy Dogs > It's finally time!

Ollivander

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Barked: Sun Jul 15, '12 1:26pm PST 
It's been such a long journey for you! I can't wait to see pictures of your new pup!
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Service & Therapy Dogs > "Faking Service Dogs" = Panic mode
Ollivander

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Barked: Thu Jul 12, '12 6:37pm PST 
The psychiatric service dog society recommends that a service dog should spend at least 90% of the time with you in order for you to have that really close relationship that comes with having a PSD. There is no law saying so, but it is recommended.

When I first started using a PSD I thought similarly to you that I should only use my SD on bad days and I didn't want to take her with me on my good days. I used her as a part time SD like that for probably half a year before I talked with more people about it and got more comfortable using my SD. I learned that I couldn't always predict when I needed her, and going out without her I was too scared to do things like stop by the store or do anything besides go to work and come home because I couldn't always predicts my mental illness. So if I were you I would recommend working with your dog to assist you all the time or at least the majority of the time.
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