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Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Sun May 5, '13 9:41am PST  "The people who adhere to the school of thought you're referring to say it doesn't work FULLY because they believe real world behaviour cannot be proofed one hundred percent without corrections/feedback. That in emergency situations the training falls down. " I guess what I don't understand is why people think this, when this type of training is used for so many dogs who will be in "real world" situations all the time. I mean it's not only used for dogs going "in the ring" so to speak. Personally I don't think there is any one hundred percent with dogs, no matter what method is being used. If the dog is in the "real world" there is always a chance they will not to do what you expect, no matter what methods you used, how much training, proofing, how well the dog has performed in the past, etc... my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Sat May 4, '13 11:12pm PST  Well that is fine but it mostly doesn't answer my question, which was why insist that the training does not work? They don't have to like the methods and they don't have to like the people who use it, but I think that is different than just completely disregarding the whole thing. You can have your preferred methods and use and recommend them without telling everyone that it's the only thing that really works, other training is ineffective and "kills dogs" or doesn't work on many dogs. I don't push my methods on everyone, or insist on people using what I do. I give advice if someone asked for it and explain what I prefer to use and why, and I will speak up if someone vilifies a method or tool I use, but they are free to take what I suggest or not. my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

Behavior & Training > Why do trainers insist that "positive training" doesn't work?

Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Sat May 4, '13 5:26pm PST  Yeah Mulder that's true, I try to avoid the training part of that other forum but sometimes a post just pulls me in... It gets really frustrating sometimes. There's a certain attitude that is common but I guess it comes with the territory. my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

Behavior & Training > Why do trainers insist that "positive training" doesn't work?

Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Sat May 4, '13 12:54pm PST  Someone posted this link on a other forum I'm on: http://www.balancedtrainers.com/bloggers/entry/a-silent-killer Several people replied basically saying that positive training doesn't work, dogs need correction (or they say some dogs, yet apparently every dog they train does), or they agreed with the article, etc... I just don't understand why so many trainers/dog owners insist that positive training doesn't work? Even to the extreme that this blogger goes to, saying it kills dogs. I am trying to understand this so I thought maybe someone had some insight into this thinking. Also how do you respond to this, I mean off line if you tell people you use this type of training and get this response? my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

Service & Therapy Dogs > Wording for dog vest/patch to avoid being mistaken for service dog?

Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Fri Apr 12, '13 5:40pm PST  Yeah Pooch (the dog I was asking about in the OP) passed away over 4 years ago (he was 14)... my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Tue Mar 5, '13 2:53pm PST  I'm not sure if all vets will just accept a dog if you bring a dog in and ask them to take it. I mean, some vets will take in strays but it's not a given that they'll do it. They're not a shelter. Although actually around here the shelters won't necessarily take in any dog either. They're not all "open admission". I once found a dog in a nearby suburb, and I called the city animal shelter for that suburb to see if they could take him since I figured if someone was looking for him they might look there, since I found him in the area near the shelter so I thought he might be from that area. He had no ID tags or microchip. The shelter said they couldn't take him because they only accepted dogs from people who were residents of that suburb. Technically if you find a dog here in Chicago I think you are supposed to take them to Chicago Animal Control. That is where all stray dogs end up that are turned in, it is the holding facility for impounded and stray animals. Unfortunately Animal Control is way down on the south side of the city(opposite end of the city from where I live, and the "bad part" of Chicago), and a lot of people don't like to go there. It's not popular and a lot of animals do not get adopted or reunited with their owners after they end up there. The euthanasia rate has been going down lately but it is still quite high. The downtown shelter Anti Cruelty Society used to also accept strays but a few years ago they changed their policy, and now they ship all strays down to Animal Control, and they only accept owner surrenders. So strays here in the city don't have a lot going for them, unless they are lucky and get pulled from Animal Control by one of the rescue groups when their stray hold is up. my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

Dog Laws & Legislation > Stolen dog returned now someone is knocking at my door

Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Tue Mar 5, '13 12:26pm PST  It's not the same as adoptig from a shelter because there is a legal proceeding there, a shelter dog Is generally given a certain holding period and if no owner comes forward they legally belong to the shelter. I wanted to add, vets do sometimes give out owner info. Ive had it happen several times when I found a stray dog wearing a rabies tag or city license tag. When I found my terrier he had a rabies tag, I called the number on the tag which in my area goes to animal control. They gave me the number of the vet who did the rabies shot. I called that vet and told them I found the dog, they told me when the dog was vaccinated which was nearly a year ago, that he had only been there once, that his name was listed as "Pooch" (which he did not recognize his name) and gave me the owner's contact info. The number turned out to be disconnected though, and a neighbor of mine (who was a police detective and also rescued) tried to get more info, she visited the address but no one at the apartment building knew them and they had no forwarding address. I have also found a dog wearing a tag from a rescue group and they gave me the owner's address, which turned out to be a few blocks away so I just took the dog back. I've rarely found a dog wearing an actual ID tag that had the owner's contact info, more often just a rabies tag or a collar with no tags, or nothing. Except one case I've never found a dog with a microchip, and if they don't have ID I always had them scanned. The one case was my Golden and that was a strange situation because we think the chip was either broken or not activated, since it was missed by at least two scanners and only seen on X-rays 10 years later... my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

Service & Therapy Dogs > How do I get started?

Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Sat Mar 2, '13 1:31pm PST  I'm sorry Baby- I wasn't offended really, I wasn't sure so I was asking if that was really the case. Maybe I phrased my post poorly. my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

Service & Therapy Dogs > A Few Questions - My Dog A Psychiatric Service Dog?

Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Sat Mar 2, '13 1:28pm PST  If a dog naturally alerts already, I read that some of the training the service dog organizations do with them is to shape the alert, in other words to alter what the dog does when they are alerting to the medical condition. So would that be enough to consider the dog trained to do tasks? my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

Pooch ~ I- miss you ~ love forever     Barked: Fri Mar 1, '13 12:57pm PST  Really, if a dog doesn't have the temperament to be a therapy dog, does that mean they can't be a service dog? Pooch for example, had no interest in strangers petting him. He was totally ok with anyone petting him, he'd let them do it with no problem but he just wouldn't pay attention to them when they did. So when I took him to a therapy dog trainer to see what they thought, they said he didn't have the temperament to be a therapy dog. He was great in public, very confident and not afraid of anything, great with people and other animals. It's just he was not interested in getting petted by people he didn't know. my posts | my page | msg me | my family's posts | gift me | become pals [notify]

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