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» There has since been 4 posts. Last posting by Kali, Today 5:53 pm
Rescue, Adoption & Happy Endings > Tiller? Can anyone help?

» There has since been 6 posts. Last posting by Kali, Today 5:53 pm
Rescue, Adoption & Happy Endings > Tiller? Can anyone help?
Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M
 I DO Exist...To- Drive You Batty | 
| Barked: Mon Jun 17, '13 11:02am PST |  |  |  |  | Well, speaking frankly, most German Shepherd rescues stand odds to be loathe to cope with a truer aggression. The GSD load is VERY high in these recent years. There are three in the one Louisiana shelter we cover right NOW....100% purebred, including a senior girl who is just breaking my heart. Even with a GSD rescue in the area, there is only so much one can do. GSDs that show aggression often are euth'd. There are so many that need help and have no time, and resources are more likely to go to dogs with lighter issues, rather than something that promises to be longer term and may still result with an unplaceable dog. So if I were you, I'd offer to donate to his rehab specifically, if such is warranted, rather than just generally. Just because they are pulling him doesn't mean he is out of the woods. I've looked at their available dogs and it looks as if they deal with lighter issues? You could also offer to sponsor once he is officially in the rescue, posted and with a foster. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 9 posts. Last posting by Kali, Today 5:53 pm
Behavior & Training > Socializing puppies when there is a risk of disease
Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M
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| Barked: Mon Jun 17, '13 9:26am PST |  |  |  |  | I am also questioning such a taut response to the unknown is all that good for the puppy either (mentally). I am totally with Toto that a strong immune system is the best protection. If you shield too much, restrict environments too much, you aren't really encouraging that.
I think we all know well enough that pups are vulnerable until their complete series, but after that seeking to protect them is very hard to support. |  |  |  |  |
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Rescue, Adoption & Happy Endings > Tiller? Can anyone help?

» There has since been 12 posts. Last posting by Kali, Today 5:53 pm
Behavior & Training > Socializing puppies when there is a risk of disease
Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M
 I DO Exist...To- Drive You Batty | 
| Barked: Sun Jun 16, '13 11:12pm PST |  |  |  |  | That's the point I don't get at ALL. If this is such a large concern, take the puppy at a later (and many would say more appropriate) age. Why take them early, away from the socialization of their litter (which is the optimum) in order to have them in an environment where there must be some restrictions? Why not just take them later I do, and then don't have to restrict at all. If these things concern you so, you could just have the puppy titered.
And I have to correct, as regards the following....."When a mother is feeding her puppies there is a secretion of Colorstrum in the milk. The Colorstrum is full of antibodies for the pups which fights off disease. Once the pups are weaned from their mother the Colostrum level decreases which in turn increases risk of disease to the puppies. Even when there is still even a slight amount of Colostrum in the pup's body systems after weaning this will decrease their 1st set of vaccinations to prevent disease."
This is NOT accurate. And honestly, OP, for all your storming about people being responsible and that they should know better, it is ironic to me as a past breeder that you do not know the following yourself :
Colostrum is availed in first milk, and it is only through the first couple of days that this can be absorbed. Not only from the dam side (when this can be absorbed), but on the puppy side....were in a few weeks the pup to be placed on another new mom for more antibodies, he would be unable to absorb them. There is no continuous supply of colostrum through mother's milk. It's like a power shot in the beginning, when the puppy's system will absorb the antibodies. These slowly taper, leaving a dangerous window where the antibodies are not strong enough to protect the puppy any longer, and yet are strong enough to conquer the vaccine. Having a mother-to-be's titers tested before whelp can often be an indicator how strong their initial immunity will be, and provide at least a gauge as to when first immunizations are advisable.
Puppies ON a mother are still potentially vulnerable unless her titers were high. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 3 posts. Last posting by Tiller (Skansen's Ira in the M, Today 9:26 am
Behavior & Training > Socializing puppies when there is a risk of disease
Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M
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| Barked: Sun Jun 16, '13 7:43pm PST |  |  |  |  | It's all a lot of fretting for no reason, IMO. In this day and age, no one should be taking an 8 week old puppy home. They are vulnerable to disease, in a fear imprint, and are missing out on critical and irreplaceable socialization time with their litter. I take mine at four months.
And for all the logic you state, bringing a puppy outside at ALL carries the same risks. Taking your pup to the vet carries that risk.
Receiving a puppy at the proper age negates all of this. I have adopted out a lot of shelter pups, never before twelve weeks, and have not lost one. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 7 posts. Last posting by Tiller (Skansen's Ira in the M, Today 9:26 am
Behavior & Training > Latest Dogster Mag Trip Through Bizzaro Land
Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M
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| Barked: Sat Jun 15, '13 12:14am PST |  |  |  |  | That's how people learn, though. Not said as regards her, but readers. As for her, she's the one who put herself out there.
I have consulted with several people who had Giant Schnauzers they thought were turning aggressive, and it's just a playful teenage dog a bit short in the manners department. And I don't know how many posts we get here with people describing puppy behavior they are viewing as "dominant" or "bossing," with deep concerns about a developing aggression.
She got paid for her confessional, and to present it was her choice. That she described herself as a "professional," and you only leave yourself more open. It's not about feeling "good," but allowing ignorance go unchecked when published in front of a dog loving public, which is subject to being influenced by published words they read.
If you are going to present yourself as a dog walker with a specialty in hard to manage dogs...prepare for some backlash if you are telling some tale of a dog who got loose from you multiple times and ended up misread while cloth muzzled. If dog walkers aren't supposed to be behavior experts, then only the comments underscore that point. She herself certainly didn't. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 7 posts. Last posting by Jackson Tan, Sat 10:03 pm
Behavior & Training > Latest Dogster Mag Trip Through Bizzaro Land
Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M
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| Barked: Fri Jun 14, '13 12:57pm PST |  |  |  |  | Aha.....I used to think it was fun to play with stallions bored in their paddock until one reared and landed, one hoof each, on my pelvic bones. Those aren't meant for that sort of impact My love of rough-housing and all that, but I decided from then on for that I should stick to dogs, and their discretionary teeth I see so nothing in that story that is even remotely intimidating. Just a spazzy dog burdening, with a decent sense of humor, a dunce.
One of the things I will say is the concept that adopted/shelter dogs are "abused" is really overblown. Neglect is common. Irresponsible owners surely. But I think when you get too much into the "poor shelter doggie has an abusive history he is showing us hints of," you can get on some very wrong tracks. Dogs do get abused, but it is not "common." Lacks of training, lacks of socialization, not having basic skills about living in a house or walking through a community....those can be common causes. Sometimes, a genetic problem.....a puppy I am fostering now has been at Southpaws for, yikes, eight months or so? I am very aware of his history and there's no abuse. The litter was a little screwy (the sister was very shy, but the sort who liked to body cuddle for support, and is doing very well in her family with a thundershirt and training). The guy I have is coming along, but with the sympathy violin pulled out you would think he'd been treated badly. Not really....he's just odd
We had a Bluetick who the foster down south read all sorts of abuse into, but really it was a self fulfilling prophecy. She seemed aggressive to men, reactive and mistrustful to dogs. But once I got her, she wasn't. I don't assume abuse, which is a great way to not see spookiness in the eyes o' Frankenstein that is non existent
Admittedly, I do have the Giants, who will tackle and maul you in jest If you are not bleeding or broken, they were just messing around. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 11 posts. Last posting by Jackson Tan, Sat 10:03 pm
Behavior & Training > Latest Dogster Mag Trip Through Bizzaro Land
Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M
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| Barked: Thu Jun 13, '13 4:45pm PST |  |  |  |  | HERE is an article written by a dogwalker trying to relate the harrowing tale of almost being "pinned at the neck" twice by a Dogo and managing to fight him off. When on presentation it sounds like a playful dog being misread by someone scared of him. Absolutely bizarre that it wouldn't occur had a Dogo wanted to do you harm, harm would done....they are large game hunters, for crying out loud. Add to this spooky stares, Frankenstein, locking jaws? I mean....really?  |  |  |  |  |
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