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Beauceron > What's it like to live with a Beauceron?
UKC Ch- Endless- Waltz de- Nanrox

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Barked: Fri Mar 8, '13 6:38am PST 
Yeah, unfortunately for all the Beauceron owners who signed up for Dogster, most of them aren't active. Don't think there's anything new I can tell you in the last couple months, I could put you in contact with Fleetwood on Facebook if you want to PM me? I don't know if you've talked with his owner yet, and they may be closer to you?

EDIT: Just sent out a request to the community asking if anyone knows of any Beauceron entries at shows in your surrounding area, I'll let you know if anyone responds with any shows/dates where you might be able to meet up wink .
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Dog Health > loss of pigment
UKC Ch- Endless- Waltz de- Nanrox

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Barked: Thu Jan 10, '13 12:45pm PST 
"I really >hate< when people post on these forums and say "I don't know""
And what's that supposed to mean? Excuse me, I own the breed and am simply stating I've not see that kind of pigment loss in this breed before so "I don't know" on that front, and then gave examples of "General" cases of other disorders. And this is why I stopped coming to this forum, the "elitists" shrug .
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To not end on that note, the only other thing you might want to look up, although I'd say she's to old for it to JUST be showing up, look into Sheltie skin disease. Her grand-sire is a litter mate to a dog who is the sire of a dog suspected as the carrier when a litter of affected puppies was produced a year or two ago. If you want or need any further information on this condition and it's inheritance in the breed, feel free to private message me at any time wink!
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Dog Health > loss of pigment

UKC Ch- Endless- Waltz de- Nanrox

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Barked: Mon Jan 7, '13 5:34pm PST 
Hmm, that is interesting. I don't know as I've seen a loss of pigment in a Beauceron before, but auto-immune disorders yes! Does she have any other medical problems that are usually auto-immune related, allergies, digestive problems, demodex, etc? Interesting her coat color is fine, my girl is in great condition but suddenly started after about 1 year getting single strands of white guard hairs in her coat, growing to small spots on her face (under the ear, just above the eye), and it concerned me, until I next saw our friends male (just under a year older, not closely related) and he had the exact odd areas of white guard hair on his face! It did remind me of Vitiligo but hasn't spread, just a few single/double white strands of hair. Her pigment is normal, all over dark except inside the mouth of coarse. The only time I've really seen a decrease in pigment is with an auto-immune problem, I remember watching the color decrease in a friends collie who had demodex, her lips are all pink now but doesn't look like it's spread in the last year.
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Beauceron > Finding a Breeder?

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Barked: Thu Nov 22, '12 8:50am PST 
Have you tried Karla Davis in CA (Chateau Rocher)? Might be a ways for you, but she's very receptive to new owner inquiries, actually she went out of her way to contact me when I was first looking, but I couldn't do it as I too wanted to meet my breeder and puppy in person, and I'm all the way on the other coast. My girls breeder has taken a break from breeding recently, still growing out her two young bitches, and that's one of the problems you do run into with "rare breeds", the big breeders are so far off and scattered around, and their puppy buyers usually only have a couple dogs who they may only breed once or twice sporadically.
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Beauceron > What are you guys like?

UKC Ch- Endless- Waltz de- Nanrox

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Barked: Thu Nov 22, '12 8:41am PST 
lol, no not vibrating, but she acts like she always has ants in her pants. While the other dogs can and will "settle" in the house, it's taken all of her 3 years to learn how to do the same, and even still she'll get up frequently to pace. She paces around the house when no one can give her time for a couple hours, she paces around with a ball in her mouth, just waiting till someone tries to sit down somewhere and *BAM* that ball hits your lap and she's in "Ready" mode. They really don't like it if there's nothing to do, always have to be doing something, and when you find that something, well, anything worth doing is worth over doing right? She thinks so anyway, LOL.
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Beauceron > What are you guys like?
UKC Ch- Endless- Waltz de- Nanrox

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Barked: Sat Nov 3, '12 11:33am PST 
Oh and forgot to add, with other dogs, watch for same sex aggression, and some individuals can tend towards "pushiness" in general with other dogs, be sure to let the breeder know exactly how your current dog(s) is behaviorally, you know what they say about "opposites attract", well it's true, let me tell you from currently owning two dominates in the same house, Mr. "true dominate" (read "The other end of the leash") and Ms. "wanna-be queen", it's like walking on eggshells, yet she gets on perfect with the little Dachshund who's cool as a cucumber but was neutered later (11 months, not exactly sure). One thing I've found though, with males anyway, earlier neutering can prevent some pushy attitude, just don't do it too early (I recommend either sex, 10-12 months is perfect).
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Beauceron > What are you guys like?

UKC Ch- Endless- Waltz de- Nanrox

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Barked: Sat Nov 3, '12 11:22am PST 
I'll start out with this, what my mother likes to tell everyone who asks about my girl; "They make a Border collie look lazy"

Having said that, it's not a breed for full time jobbers, or couch potatoes by far, they not only need physical exercise, they also need constant mental attention, they're seemingly always looking for a job if you don't give them one, my girl is right now himing and hawing and sighing on the sofa waiting to go back out, again, to play. And I've seen dogs as old at 12-14 have "crazy moments" of energy.

Training, they require a firm but fair hand, they're very easy to break in trust, but can also get pushy. Methods based of correction/punishment are not recommended, they quickly learn to loose your trust, and will lash out over unfair correction such as misguided collar pops and "alpha rolls" (which I don't advise for ANY dog at all), be ready to say no but please make sure they know why. They thrive on positive reinforcement, and lots of communication from their handler, my own dog is much more toy (ball) driven than food, but both work, and she's even heavily driven just by pure attention, they are by far a very handler driven dog.

Which brings me to another area, some lines tend towards more anxiety and related behaviors than others. French showlines are most notorious for these behavior problems. It can lead to a lot of separation anxiety, and can also hinder training, and make training in general harder/slower. Taking it slow and easy is a must. This is something I've found a lot of breeders try to hide or at least lack to inform people of, and I was not informed of their exaggerated fear periods till after my girl hit her second at 8 months old and was promptly ruined by park construction and an illegal fireworks party, lesson learned. Fear period are usually at: 8-10 weeks, 8-10 months, and 12-14 months old.

They are a very sensitive breed, again making them easy to "break", early socialization is a MUST, no ifs ands or butts, and OFTEN, not a once a week to a little class, I mean take the puppy wherever whenever you can! But also make it safe socialization, say not to a large crowded LOUD parade, but take them to small events and busy stores, a farm, the city, park to sit on a bench and watch the birds, etc.

Oh, and they are one of the slowest to mature! I don't think they ever reach a main point of where their energy just drops off like the average dog when they hit a certain age, but certainly the first 2 years are their most filled with spontaneous energy outburst and random moments of zoomies at the worst possible time. However physically they don't fully mature till around 3 years old, my girl is 3 and finally finishing filling out (she's still narrow, but that's her lines).


That's just a general summery of my first 3 years with one Beauceron personally.
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Beauceron > A little help from my fellow beauceron owners!

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Barked: Tue Oct 16, '12 11:31am PST 
Sounds like you are already on the right track then! I'm familiar too with the "uneasy in certain locations" bit, my girl's having issues right now with going in the woods, the coyotes have poo'd ALL along the path from the field up! Nope, she wont ever be a guard dog as far as I'm concerned, that's why I have the Corgi wink . Actually she had a funny melt down one night, I awoke from a vivid dream to hear coyote's yowling right outside my window, I looked over to watch her dart out of my bedroom, then peek around the corner of the door giving me the "Mommy, DO SOMETHING!?" look, yep, some guard dog. Doesn't matter a bit to me, she's SUPER sweet.

And it's funny, she can be so very gentle and careful playing with the Mini Dachsie, but he wont go out and play if she's out already, because there have been a few occasions where she's run right over him, poor guy, she just get's a little too exuberant.

And nice lines way to go .

About the picky eating however...HA! Good luck, got that here too, battle it less these days, it seems from what I've been told they do grow out of it, but man! Is it a battle, my poor girl went through a particularly bad spat of it when she was less than a year and got to the point where you could feel her hip bones! Freaked my mother out, but nope, she just wouldn't eat, and if you forced her to eat, she'd just bring it back up in a private dark corner of a less active room, *yuck*. Patience is the best advice I can give, I have found that she's more inclined to eat after exercise (although do keep to at least one hours rest after!), and she also likes smaller meals in the morning and larger ones in the evening. If you only have her right now you may also want to "free-feed" her at night at bed time, I found that helped (shut her in my room with a bowl of kibble), although the boys will gladly take a meal every hour and I feed them around 6-6:30PM, she seemed to prefer 8PM, now that she's eating more regularly I feed her the same time as everyone else.

Good luck with her! And if you can, you may also want to look into herding classes, or someone in the area that offers lessons, she sounds like she would be great at it if she's anything like my girl, and it's a lot of fun! We're half way to our AKC PT title, didn't pick up another leg this fall as they canceled the trial I entered, so it will have to wait till next spring, but there's always practice. It took her over a year but once I finally got her "turned on" to the sheep, she really enjoys it now.
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Beauceron > A little help from my fellow beauceron owners!

UKC Ch- Endless- Waltz de- Nanrox

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Barked: Fri Oct 12, '12 8:50am PST 
Okay, second question about interacting with strangers, first again we go to the breed standard:
"...A formidable dog with a frank and unwavering expression, he always demands respect wherever he goes. ...He retains a high degree of his inherited instinct to guard home and master. Although he can be reserved with strangers, he is loving and loyal to those he knows."

Does you pup seem "fearful" or just "not quite sure"? I'll refer you to this link on canine body language so you can pick apart what you think- http://www.flickr.com/photos/lilita/5652847156/

Now given that, some lines of this breed do tend towards an "anxious" and even "fearful" temperament, it happens, and in some lines more than others. You can help your puppy to be more "open/excepting" with the public, whether fearful or just breed wise suspicious, through more socializing, but be warned, this breed is also easy to "break" with the wrong kind of introduction, so make sure you find an easy to control environment where people would be more willing to ask you about your dog (the pet store/farm store, little farmers markets, etc), instead of say a busy event where everyone and their eighth cousin might come to maul your dog for petting and hugs (which is rude, IMO as well as my dogs).

Now from my own experience, I have a cautious/fearful girl, but overall I sadly ended up with what I didn't want, the "happy to see everyone I can't control my excitement" Golden Retriever in a sheepdog suit. That happens too, it's taken a LOT to get her where she is now that she can safely keep 4 on the floor, but also not turn her off to strangers. She did have ONE bad experience one day when a family friend came over once, and from that I've now had issues with her and some men, I'm guessing it's a scent on them that's familiar to the experience? But she will back away, ears back, turned, and giving a low deep growl, at which point I usually dump a treat in their hand, and she'll take it cautiously in exchange for some nice petting (which I instruct them to please go under the chin or along the side of her face, she almost always backs away from "head pats" which again are rude to all dogs anyhow), she'll usually warm up a little after, but it's a work in progress.

Biggest tip, is mostly to control the environment as best you can to make sure every experience your puppy has is a good one! That is the most important key with handling this breed. I've heard numerous times from people across the world with this breed how much they would love to get into things like French Ring or schutzhund training with their Beauceron's, but can't because they don't have a trainer who can reliable work with their particular temperament needs in training, they truly are a different dog to work with than say a GSD or Rottie, or Mal, or Dobie, when it comes to that respect (although I'm far more a firm believer in the training methods outlined in those illustration I linked above by Lili Chin, no matter the breed, and it seems many other countries do too which is where I do see the few trainers able to successfully work with Beauceron in FR/Sch training, interestingly enough).

As to maturity, the leery of strangers thing wont just "go away", as I already stated, that's something that needs to be worked on now properly to change it. But overall, yes this is a "slow to mature" breed, however, I've personally found and can't state highly enough, that this breed is exceptionally SLOW to mature! I've seen breeders state it on their website, but no one can exclaim it enough, my girl is just 3 years old, and FINALLY things are starting to "click" with her. It isn't just the physical maturity, which at 3 she's only just starting to look like she's "filled out", although she's still too narrow which comes from her family line.

Hope that's enough info for now, let me know if you have anymore questions, I don't proclaim to be an expert, but feel free to pick my brain of personal experience with my very first Beauceron, it's been quite a ride already in the short (although it seems like forever!) 3 years I've had her.
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Beauceron > A little help from my fellow beauceron owners!
UKC Ch- Endless- Waltz de- Nanrox

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Barked: Wed Oct 10, '12 3:06pm PST 
Who did you get her from? Depending on her lines she could be on the larger end or smaller, but the standard is "bitches 24 to 26½ inches at the withers". I don't remember any measurements of my girl right along, but she is 3 and 25" at the withers, and is around 64lbs, she hit her height around 10 months and current weight at around 2 years, she's right in between, but these days the French show lines tend towards a smaller size. She's also narrow, but just starting to spring out in rib. They go through some funny growing stages though like all large breed puppies, and you will see the "leggy stages" quite a few times until they start to fill out around 18-24 months old. They also don't tend to mature for a long time, like I said she's still "filling out" at 3 years old. Gotta run, I'll get back to you on temperament later.
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