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Discuss ways to improve the quality of your dog's life and longevity through proper nutrition; a place for all of your questions and answers about feeding your pooch!

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Moose

I love sitting- in laps
 
 
Barked: Sun Mar 3, '13 4:17pm PST 
Moose is now eating NB Lamb and Rice and his poops are perfect. But, he's been losing weight since the caloric intake is less per cup.
He's currently eating 8 cups a day (3 meals a day) and a small amount of training treats and about a tablespoon of wet NB food at night in his Kong.

I didn't notice any weight loss until last week so today I'm going to go to feeding him 4 times a day and adding another cup or so of food to his daily rations.

My question is-- would it be better to add goodies to his food rather than increase to 9-10 cups a day?

And if I add goodies, what would you suggest?

My only concern with adding toppings is it possibly giving him loose stools. Of courseI can go by trial and error with the topping.
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Conker

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Barked: Sun Mar 3, '13 7:01pm PST 
Raw eggs, high-fat ground beef (80% lean 20% fat), chicken quarters (with skin), and oatmeal have worked for me before. I usually add in a dash of beef liver too, but if your dog has a sensitive stomach that might cause loose stools at first.
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Barked: Mon Mar 4, '13 5:23pm PST 
Why not increase the amount of food instead of the number of times you feed him? I feed my dog once a day and he maintains the same weight. I rarely give him any snacks. Is your dog at his optimum weight? Perhaps the weight loss is healthy
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Moose

I love sitting- in laps
 
 
Barked: Mon Mar 4, '13 9:03pm PST 
Moose is a growing boy still and will be for the next year. His weight has always been perfect with a nice waist line and ribs that could easily be felt.
This weight loss isn't welcome.
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Dexter *CGC- silver*

If it moves - Herd it!
 
 
Barked: Tue Mar 5, '13 5:17am PST 
He's a big boy so it's normal for his weight to fluctuate as he grows. I had the same problem with Dexter, I increased his meal intake instead of giving him extra treats puppy

This worked for us and now, instead of extra kibble (as he got a bit bored of more kibble after a while) I add some wet food to his meal in the morning, which he loves puppy

I get what you mean though, Dexter became very skinny at one point and I panicked... He was always quite skinny but in an athletic sense as I'm sure Moose is too, so weight loss wasn't welcome with me either...

There are also supplements you can get which adds calories to a meal without adding bulk.

Good luck with it and I'm sure he'll be back to his normal weight in no time puppy
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Mulder

Spooky Mulder
 
 
Barked: Tue Mar 5, '13 8:37am PST 
The Natural Balance is extremely low in just about everything... fat, protein, and calories.

Have you considered switching to a denser lamb/rice food?

Holistic Select makes a lamb/rice food thats 22/15 protein/fat and just over 400 cals/cup.

Seems like a way better choice, especially for a growing puppy, who NEEDS that good fat for energy. The Cal/Phos numbers aren't insane for a growing giant breed either, though they do also make a lamb/rice LBP food too (don't like it as much as the adult in your situation, though).
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Moose

I love sitting- in laps
 
 
Barked: Tue Mar 5, '13 1:06pm PST 
I wasn't too keen on NB fat/protein levels, but Moose's stools went from soft to runny on the NV he was on, (2 different bags so I don't think it was the batch of food). I switched him to NB to get his poops normal and I'm really happy with the results, but now I'm dealing with the weight loss.

After I posted the question, I thought about whether trying a different brand where the fat and protein were a bit higher but I'm afraid the food just may be too rich for him.

I'll check out Holistic Select and compare the ingredients to NV.
For now I'm just adding egg and will slowly introduce other proteins.
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Barked: Sun Mar 10, '13 8:13pm PST 
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Bam-Bam, CGC

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Barked: Mon Mar 11, '13 4:59am PST 
I will say it's normal for the giants to fluctuate... One minute they are nice and solid and sturdy and the next it's like, "Wait... What is this ribby thing?"

Do you know exactly how much weight he has lost? Is it possible that the weight just shifted as his body used it elsewhere? I honestly wouldn't be too concerned unless it became excessive and the amount lost continued to increase.

Otherwise... I don't see a problem with either suggestions: adding an extra meal or switching to a denser food.
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Bullie

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Barked: Wed Mar 13, '13 12:08am PST 
Natural Balance is not high quality food. The poop may be perfect looking but the dog may not be digesting the food as efficiently. Does he have larger poops?

There are other alternatives to NV too. Blue Buffalo, Fromm, Taste of the Wild, Earthborn Holistics just to name a few.
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