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Large Breed Suggestions

If you are wondering what is the right dog for you, this is the place to be. In this introductory forum we talk about topics such as breed vs. mix, size, age, grooming, breeders, shelters, rescues as well as requirements for exercise, space and care. No question is too silly here. This particular forum is for getting and giving helpful, nice advice. It is definitely not a forum for criticizing someone else's opinion, knowledge or advice. This forum is all about tail wagging and learning.

  
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Dr. Watson

Not a wiener- dawg!
 
 
Barked: Sat Jan 26, '13 8:14am PST 
If fetch and swimming and playfulness are important, I must suggest the Golden Retriever here. And I don't always push for my breed. I have to laugh, right now my almost 7-year-old Watt is bouncing around the house with a "tennis bone," throwing his head back and play bowing.laugh out loud

I've had the same experience as Selli with my Goldens in that they always preferred me and my family, while being friendly.

Goldens are also especially well-known for their good nature with children, and I will vouch for the fact that my Goldens (I'm on my third) have been absolutely wonderful with children and toddlers.

As far as health goes, Selli has given you the scoop. One thing I am looking for in my next Golden puppy is longevity in the breeding lines. And of course all the major health clearances and good temperament, drive, etc. There are some very good Golden breeders out there, you just have to be careful. Pawmail me if you have any questions.
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Kalisi

cum cibum- fluitante, vita- bonum est
 
 
Barked: Sat Jan 26, '13 9:25am PST 
shock Selli, you've met a most unusual berner!
Berners, even un-trained, are generally the type you can have off-leash anywhere and they'll stick close to you. When I go on outings with the local berner club, we have 10-15 berners running around off-leash and playing amongst themselves, but remaining close to us, and completely disinterested in the strangers walking around them.

I wouldn't suggest having one off leash around food though. At aforementioned outings, I always have a pack of dogs trailing my treat filled coat pockets and trying to charm me by sitting. red face
I do know one or two berners who aren't as food motivated as most, but your sister's specimen sounds like a minority in the breed. Do you know how/if s/he's been trained, with regards to recall, and with treats? I mean, I know for some dogs trained with physical corrections, the idea of taking a treat or coming when called may be associated with discomfort.

I feel I must defend "my" breed here little angel - the berner's activity level is generally quite malleable, especially in youth. If you want a couch potato, you raise one - I don't, so I exercise mine more, and try to build more prey drive via play.
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Augusta,- CGC, RN

Such a Good Dog!
 
 
Barked: Sat Jan 26, '13 9:57am PST 
Look into the Italian Spinone! It's a breed that I've thought about based on description and temperament--I've met one and he was a big lovable goofball, but still athletic looking.

Also collie comes in smooth coat, but I think they probably still shed a lot.

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Bosley

Will Work For- Food
 
 
Barked: Sat Jan 26, '13 10:57am PST 
A Berner who doesn't like food?!?!?! Mine will practically do calculus for a tidbit of any type of food.big grin

I agree with Kalisi about the Berner's energy level - once they are past puppyhood, they will generally have the energy level you raise them to have. I am active with my dogs so they are active. If you raise a couch potato, that's what they will be. I don't advise that Berners be raised as couch potatoes - keeping them active and lean goes a long way towards having a healthy dog. I also warn people that just because a mature Berner may be calm and mellow, that doesn't mean they are like that in puppyhood. Berner puppies (under 2 years) can be very active. They tend to be a slow maturing breed and often are 3 years old before they mature mentally.

Prey drive is generally low in the Berners but not always. My Maggie had very high prey drive and would chase any small prey animal and livestock. She only killed something once and that is because I was very diligent about managing where she could be off-leash. We tried shepherding and she just wanted to chase down the sheep and bite them.

I find most Bernese to be good off leash as they really want to stick close to their people and they tend not to wander off too far.
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Dr. Watson

Not a wiener- dawg!
 
 
Barked: Sat Jan 26, '13 1:04pm PST 
I guess we are all rooting for our breeds, lol!big grin
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Augusta,- CGC, RN

Such a Good Dog!
 
 
Barked: Sat Jan 26, '13 1:23pm PST 
spinone italiano

I think these guys definitely fit the easy going, good with everyone . . ..big 'ol Teddy bear look! way to go

I would definitely put Golden on the list too, but since everybody knows about them--I just had to put the Italian Spinone in--they are so darn cute and sound temperamentally wonderful.
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Edward

Edward - Sweet to the- core
 
 
Barked: Sat Jan 26, '13 3:22pm PST 
Well Clumbers are pretty special - you should try to meet one in person if you can. They also love to swim (they are bred for water retrieving) - mine swim every day in the summer. And if you have a clumber you will never be alone again - they are complete velcro dogs. But the shedding isn't for the faint of heart - they shed a lot 24/7 365 days a yeear. Plus the drool - picture having to regularly scrub down your walls from slung drool throughout the house (our hallways are always particularly drool adorned). And you will never look at black clothes the same way again (from the white hair smile. You learn to have lint brushes everywhere and to always do a last roll if going anywhere in public. I always say they are definitely not the dog for a neatfreak. But they are such clowns they will keep you endlessly entertained. And they are very soft dogs - a harsh word and they crumble.
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Josie

Happy to work
 
 
Barked: Sun Jan 27, '13 2:23pm PST 
I have to chime in that I am in the Mid-Atlantic region (specifically MD) and know LOTS of people with berners and they do great, they learn where the air conditioning is and will lay next to it when it gets really hot in the summer!!

I actually know a good amount of great breeders in the area around me and none have ever had issues due to the heat.
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"Selli"

The Muddy- Princess
 
 
Barked: Sun Jan 27, '13 3:52pm PST 
I think Berners are lovely dogs and that they are better suited to many people than a Golden or a Lab is. I have known many and I have a friend who got a UDX on a Berner. I am simply making the point (as someone else did) that Berner's are not Goldens in Tuxedos.

My sister has successfully owned and trained Goldens and she does not use harsh methods for training. I may also be making an unfair comparison since the Goldens in question are from a very successful performance kennel and have been bred for their responsiveness. Finally, our level of dog walks is also much higher than most people do. We had been going all out for at least three hours a day for a week.
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Toby

137592
 
 
Barked: Mon Jan 28, '13 6:01am PST 
Well unfortunately I think the Clumbers are out. I am not a neat freak but drool on walls is just out of my comfort zone. A little bit of a shame because they do seem like such great dogs, but I know myself well enough to say that drool everywhere would stress me.

Thank you for differentiating the Berners and the golden, they are definitely different dogs. I think in the end we could live happily will either, and we will just have to see what Breeders we come across that spark our interest. I've been busy the last 24 hours dealing with Kodie's health issues, so I think health more than anything will drive us toward a breed in the end. Time will tell what we end up with!
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