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I have a German Shorthair pointer and am having a very hard time convincing her I am the boss.

I am thinking of purchasing the dogfather training kit. If anyone has had experience with this good, bad or indifferent I would love to know.
Thank you!


Asked by Guest 763529 on Nov 21st 2009 Tagged dogfathertraining in Behavior & Training
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Fritz

Hi, you don't need to be boss; you need to be the leader. Look into “The power of positive dog training “by Pat Miller or “The culture clash” by Jean Donaldson.
They will teach you to work with your dog using positive methods that are fast and easy. Post on the training and behavior forum for more in-depth information on working with your dog.


Fritz answered on 11/21/09. Helpful? Yes/Helpful: No 0 Report this answer


Odin CGC

So I would like to know more about what your problems are exactly and I am sorry that I can't answer you about the dogfather training kit I have never heard of it but most dogs especially sporting breeds need alot of exercise. Chances are she just needs to go for longer walks or you could try giving her a job to do like hiding bird scented toys around the yard and teaching her to find them. This will stimulate her physically as well as mentally. Both are equally important for a well balanced dog!
Good luck
-My mom is a CPDT (Certified Pet Dog Trainer)


Odin CGC answered on 11/21/09. Helpful? Yes/Helpful: No 0 Report this answer


Pippin CGC

You don't need to convince her that you are boss...You simply need to convince her that great things happen when she listens to you! : )


Pippin CGC answered on 11/21/09. Helpful? Yes/Helpful: No 1 Report this answer


Aster

I did a search and looked at it a litttle. I am a little concerned about the ''Command Collar" I fear it is some sort of a harsh method. Some dogs you can get away with harsh methods or a least at first they look good. While I can suggest books, some people do better with a video. www.dogsbestfriend.com might be a better source. Some of the other people, McConnell, Donaldson, Volmer, Pryor, etc. may have videos available too.

Sulivan looks to me like one more opportunist using marketing hype to promote over priced junk.


Aster answered on 11/22/09. Helpful? Yes/Helpful: No 0 Report this answer


Dieta

having different hunting dogs, they are hard headed.
You will have the most luck using motivational training.
They have a one track mind, hunting.
Also some that are sight hounds are even worse at times.
Motivational training takes a little more work but the rewards are outstanding.
I have used Sheila Booth's purely and positive training, it is simple written book and she does use food and toy rewards.
I think you could find it useful.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Shorthair_Pointer
look at this link sometimes they are useful.
I really don't think the dog is challenging you I think the dog may be bored and needs a job.


Dieta answered on 11/22/09. Helpful? Yes/Helpful: No 0 Report this answer


Guest

NUMBER 1: Sporting dogs are very earger to please, they were bred for that quality.
NUMBER 2: Your girl is just looking a way to please you(believe it or not)
NUMBER 3: GSPs need WORK to be happy. A lot of folks with GSPs do agility training with them, they are great at it.
Anyone who can say a GSP is hardheaded has never owned one..I have raised them for more than 30 years there is no breed that is more eager to please and happier to be right by your side wherever you go.Only dogs I EVER hard any problems with were a couple of German Shepard crosses, and I have raised and TRAINED a number of GSPs with NO problems.Sporting dogs, hard headed?Like the Goldens and Labs that are the most prevalent service dogs?Sporting dogs were the ORIGINAL dogs, they were bred to live with and hunt with humans, since before recorded history. And I personally bred and did the very early training for twoGSPs that went on to become assistance dogs. I have turned buyers away who thought GSPs hardheaded.


Guest 737609 answered on 11/22/09. Helpful? Yes/Helpful: No 0 Report this answer


Katie

Hi there!

I agree with Aster and the others who are not sure about the Dogfather. Any person or system that advocates aversive methods (e.g., "training" collars, leash "corrections," or any methods that surprise or scare a dog out of a behavior) is barking up the wrong tree!

I just bought Jean Donaldson's book The Culture Clash and so far, it's right on track. Dogs do what works. They do what they find rewarding, so you need to reward any behavior you find pleasing and extinguish (ignore or remove) any behavior that's not wanted.

You don't need to convince your dog of anything - you already control all her resources. Try hand-feeding one meal a day to increase the bond, and make her work for the other meal. You can use puzzle toys, or hide food around the yard so she can use that incredible nose to find it!

You don't list specific behaviors that are problems, so it's hard to give specific advice. But look for any books by Ian Dunbar or Patricia McConnell, both Ph.D. behaviorists.


Katie answered on 11/22/09. Helpful? Yes/Helpful: No 0 Report this answer


Alfie

German Shorthaired Pointers are very "soft" when it comes to corrections... they need encouragement rather than force, as they will totally turn off with any type of force. Once you have "beaten them down", it is going to be very difficult to earn the dog's respect back again.
You need to find a positive reward based method of training... food treats, a favorite toy, or some other high value item. You need to show them what you want... not force them into submission.
You need to lead with a shorthair, not be "the boss".


Alfie answered on 11/23/09. Helpful? Yes/Helpful: No 0 Report this answer